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Paynen_Supherin · Dec 09, 2009, 07:37 PM // 19:37

Hi All!
I've not played in many years (many, many). I have a 20 Assassin and a 20 Necro.

I've recently started playing a bit but I'm kind of lost on what to do. I like PvE and PvP but it seems that things have changed so much!

Are guilds worth looking into?

Bah sorry for all of the questions but it's like I bought the game with level 20's attached and I can't remember for the life of me how it all fits together!

Any advice is appreciated!

Best regards,
Paynen Supherin

Zodiac Meteor · Dec 09, 2009, 08:16 PM // 20:16

Oh man, where to start.

PvP has changed a lot with skill splits to keep the game balanced. 95% of PvP guilds are required to have high-end players. Codex Arena replaced Hero Battles.

PvE on the other hand is still a little broken but the HUGE update tomorrow will change a ton. Underworld now has the God of Death, Dhuum (Which is a blast to fight). Green items are worth an average 2-5k except of rare skinned greens. Tonics are everywhere in towns, Kamadam is the new trade area. PvE skills are super useful and should grab some. Check out the wiki page for more information.

Looking into a guild isn't a must, but they can help you with a lot of changes and meta builds. I'll be happy to lend you a hand just whisper Zodiac Ele.

Broseiden · Dec 09, 2009, 08:27 PM // 20:27

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Originally Posted by Zodiac Meteor

Oh man, where to start.

PvP has changed a lot with skill splits to keep the game balanced. 95% of PvP guilds are required to have high-end players. Codex Arena replaced Hero Battles.

PvE on the other hand is still a little broken but the HUGE update tomorrow will change a ton. Underworld now has the God of Death, Dhuum (Which is a blast to fight). Green items are worth an average 2-5k except of rare skinned greens. Tonics are everywhere in towns, Kamadam is the new trade area. PvE skills are super useful and should grab some. Check out the wiki page for more information.

Looking into a guild isn't a must, but they can help you with a lot of changes and meta builds. I'll be happy to lend you a hand just whisper Zodiac Ele.

Update is tomorrow yay!

Also @ OP, consider getting Eye of the North if you actually like to play Guild Wars (I say this assuming that you haven't played in years which means you don't have EotN). You get a lot of new dungeons, awesome new skills that are usable by any profession, and meet the new races/areas. There's also hard mode which makes drops better and increases the difficulty and level of monsters. THERE'S ALSO HEROES. Heroes are like henchmen that belong to you and you can customize what goes into their armor pieces and what their skills are. Each person can bring up to 3 years per party. They also made henchmen better by giving them better skill sets.

PS - Also consider getting Nightfall, good game.

Sorry if I'm assuming wrong here.

instanceskiller · Dec 09, 2009, 08:45 PM // 20:45

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Originally Posted by Zodiac Meteor

Oh man, where to start.

PvP has changed a lot with skill splits to keep the game balanced. 95% of PvP guilds are required to have high-end players. Codex Arena replaced Hero Battles.

PvE on the other hand is still a little broken but the HUGE update tomorrow will change a ton. Underworld now has the God of Death, Dhuum (Which is a blast to fight). Green items are worth an average 2-5k except of rare skinned greens. Tonics are everywhere in towns, Kamadam is the new trade area. PvE skills are super useful and should grab some. Check out the wiki page for more information.

Looking into a guild isn't a must, but they can help you with a lot of changes and meta builds. I'll be happy to lend you a hand just whisper Zodiac Ele.

hey sorry but how do you know if there is going to be an update tomorrow?
cus the way you say it makes it sound like you're very sure? lol sorry for asking but I will be so happy if it is true

Jerrodh · Dec 09, 2009, 08:49 PM // 20:49

Most likely SF nerf as long as possible nerfs to other popular Farming builds/skills. If you don't know what SF is its Shadow form usage on an assassin that through a trio of skills your able to keep SF up constantly, its very easy and everyone does it and can solo elite places like the Underworld, extremely fast.

Bob Slydell · Dec 09, 2009, 09:04 PM // 21:04

Well. If you get into a good guild they might be able to get your refreshed.

Leaving out all the annoying skill balances and stuff...ill list some things coming off the top of my head at the moment.

-PvE Hard Mode (Makes areas maxed out difficulty) Brought life back into the old "noob" areas as well. All you needed to do was beat the campaign once to access the HM button so you can switch between NM and HM.

-PvP/PvE skill split, because skill balances were affecting both communities, lots of QQ'in was happenin so they introduced it. But a lot of old PvE skills remained nerfed to hell.

-Bonus mission pack (purchase it from online store)

-Makeover Pack (lets you change how your character looks.) The extreme makeover lets you swap genders, lol.

-Nicholas Sandford. Sits in pre seating with item requirements changing daily. The items he seeks are collectibles that various monsters drop. (ex. scale fins..etc..) One gift of the huntsman per 5 items.

-Nicholas the traveler. Travels around in the game (not pre searing areas) and he moves and switches his item requirements once per week. His item requirements are usually a 2-5 (depending on rarity of item) of any monster drop (like a scale fin) for one Gift of the Traveler.

-Zaishen Quests. Lots to explain here, but best for you to talk into the Great temple of balthazar and check out the flags, as well as the npc's next to the flags.

Depending on how "man many" years you have last played... you probably might not even have Eye of the north (the expansion). Maybe even Nightfall.

And look up some of the stuff here I mentioned on the official wiki for lots of good info.

wiki.guildwars.com

bsoltan · Dec 09, 2009, 09:58 PM // 21:58

My suggestion would be to start again with a new character (even if it is the same profession as your current level 20s). You can learn the basics again and you may pick it up quickly and breeze through the starting areas.

Then you will have a good understanding of the game and will have also picked up some chat from other players while you're playing, you can look at joining a Guild to help you out and provide a stable group of people to play with.

Good luck and have fun!

Paynen_Supherin · Dec 09, 2009, 10:05 PM // 22:05

Thanks everyone!

I do have all packs including Nightfall. I just bought Eye of the North last night.

I think I may just start a new toon in the Nightfall campaign. I'll be on Sui Sydal or Paynen Supherin so look me up!

Thanks again!

Wuhy · Dec 09, 2009, 10:44 PM // 22:44

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Originally Posted by Zodiac Meteor

PvP has changed a lot with skill splits to keep the game balanced.

now this is the biggest bullsh*t I've ever heard in my entire life.

Bob Slydell · Dec 10, 2009, 12:11 AM // 00:11

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Originally Posted by Wuhy

now this is the biggest bullsh*t I've ever heard in my entire life.

Really? Because that's why the split was done. For balance.

Switchfoot55 · Dec 10, 2009, 01:12 AM // 01:12

Yeah, i'm curious about the update tomorrow too. What's that all about? Where can I get info? Obviously it'll be posted what the updates are after they happen. Is there a place you can look for new updates?

byteme! · Dec 10, 2009, 03:45 AM // 03:45

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Originally Posted by Switchfoot55

Yeah, i'm curious about the update tomorrow too. What's that all about? Where can I get info? Obviously it'll be posted what the updates are after they happen. Is there a place you can look for new updates?

You'll know when we know and when that happens it'll be posted beforehand. In other words. No one has a clue. If there was a place to look for new updates that haven't been implemented yet, we'd all know by now. Info spreads like wild fire.

jonnieboi05 · Dec 10, 2009, 09:14 AM // 09:14

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Originally Posted by Paynen_Supherin

Thanks everyone!

I do have all packs including Nightfall. I just bought Eye of the North last night.

I think I may just start a new toon in the Nightfall campaign. I'll be on Sui Sydal or Paynen Supherin so look me up!

Thanks again!

You need to delete that character and/or change it's name ASAP. That name is considered "inappropriate" by EULA/ToS standards. If you're reported by someone (Chances are you will. A LOT of people report out of spite) you will be faced with a temporary account ban and a forced name change if you ever wish to log back into that character.

Just a heads up.

Arduin · Dec 10, 2009, 09:49 AM // 09:49

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Originally Posted by Chrisworld

Really? Because that's why the split was done. For balance.

The split was done so skill changes in PvP wouldn't affect the skills in PvE anymore, and vice versa. If this split gave us a more balanced PvP is open for debate.

Oh, and welcome back, Paynen_Supherin. If you want to join a guild, this forum is a good place to start.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/f...play.php?f=263

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Originally Posted by JonnieBoi05

You need to delete that character and/or change it's name ASAP. That name is considered "inappropriate" by EULA/ToS standards. If you're reported by someone (Chances are you will. A LOT of people report out of spite) you will be faced with a temporary account ban and a forced name change if you ever wish to log back into that character.

Just a heads up.

I'd recommend not deleting that character. If your name is deemed inappropriate (which is likely, to be honest), you are given the opportunity of renaming that character. I'm not sure if you do get a temporary ban, but that would be 3 days max.

By deleting your character, you would lose all the progress on the character.

jonnieboi05 · Dec 10, 2009, 10:34 AM // 10:34

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Originally Posted by Arduinna

I'd recommend not deleting that character. If your name is deemed inappropriate (which is likely, to be honest), you are given the opportunity of renaming that character. I'm not sure if you do get a temporary ban, but that would be 3 days max.

By deleting your character, you would lose all the progress on the character.

Assuming it's a PvP character-- which is perfectly fine to delete. I should have clarified that.

He said this:

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it's like I bought the game with level 20's attached and I can't remember for the life of me how it all fits together!

so I assumed they were PvP characters.

In short: If it's a PvE toon I recommend contacting Support and telling them you have a character named "Sui Sydal" and that you think it might be against their EULA/ToS. They would probably allow you a free name change. Support is usually rather leniant and quite supportive in technical cases like this.

If it's a PvP toon just remake it. PvP characters can be remade infinitly. Just make sure you take off ALL items/gold that were put onto the character that isn't creatable via "pvp item creation".

Arduin · Dec 10, 2009, 12:17 PM // 12:17

Ah, didn't think of the 20's being PvP characters, more like OP played two PvE's to level 20, then ditched the game.

Either way, contacting support is probably the best way to go:

http://www.guildwars.com/support/default.php

Paynen_Supherin · Dec 10, 2009, 03:56 PM // 15:56

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Originally Posted by Arduinna

Ah, didn't think of the 20's being PvP characters, more like OP played two PvE's to level 20, then ditched the game.

Either way, contacting support is probably the best way to go:

http://www.guildwars.com/support/default.php

Actually my 20's were both started as PvE level 1's. Their names - Paynen Supherin and Razormaid X.

The toon "Sui Sydal" is a new toon so no harm in deleting. I don't have alot of experience with the PvP side of GW but I'd sure like to get into some. Seems that there is quite a learning curve.

Ah well if anyone knows of a guild that doesn't have a problem teaching I'm generally a quick study.

Thanks again for all the positive posts!

Dec 09, 2009, 07:37 PM // 19:37	#1
Paynen_Supherin Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Dec 2009 Profession: N/	Born Again Noob! Hi All! I've not played in many years (many, many). I have a 20 Assassin and a 20 Necro. I've recently started playing a bit but I'm kind of lost on what to do. I like PvE and PvP but it seems that things have changed so much! Are guilds worth looking into? Bah sorry for all of the questions but it's like I bought the game with level 20's attached and I can't remember for the life of me how it all fits together! Any advice is appreciated! Best regards, Paynen Supherin

Dec 09, 2009, 08:16 PM // 20:16	#2
Zodiac Meteor Imma Firin Mah Rojway! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: At the Mac Store laughing at people that walk out with anything. Profession: E/Mo	Oh man, where to start. PvP has changed a lot with skill splits to keep the game balanced. 95% of PvP guilds are required to have high-end players. Codex Arena replaced Hero Battles. PvE on the other hand is still a little broken but the HUGE update tomorrow will change a ton. Underworld now has the God of Death, Dhuum (Which is a blast to fight). Green items are worth an average 2-5k except of rare skinned greens. Tonics are everywhere in towns, Kamadam is the new trade area. PvE skills are super useful and should grab some. Check out the wiki page for more information. Looking into a guild isn't a must, but they can help you with a lot of changes and meta builds. I'll be happy to lend you a hand just whisper Zodiac Ele.

Dec 09, 2009, 08:49 PM // 20:49	#5
Jerrodh Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2009 Guild: FOTG Profession: R/E	Most likely SF nerf as long as possible nerfs to other popular Farming builds/skills. If you don't know what SF is its Shadow form usage on an assassin that through a trio of skills your able to keep SF up constantly, its very easy and everyone does it and can solo elite places like the Underworld, extremely fast.

Dec 09, 2009, 09:04 PM // 21:04	#6
Bob Slydell Forge Runner Join Date: Jan 2007	Well. If you get into a good guild they might be able to get your refreshed. Leaving out all the annoying skill balances and stuff...ill list some things coming off the top of my head at the moment. -PvE Hard Mode (Makes areas maxed out difficulty) Brought life back into the old "noob" areas as well. All you needed to do was beat the campaign once to access the HM button so you can switch between NM and HM. -PvP/PvE skill split, because skill balances were affecting both communities, lots of QQ'in was happenin so they introduced it. But a lot of old PvE skills remained nerfed to hell. -Bonus mission pack (purchase it from online store) -Makeover Pack (lets you change how your character looks.) The extreme makeover lets you swap genders, lol. -Nicholas Sandford. Sits in pre seating with item requirements changing daily. The items he seeks are collectibles that various monsters drop. (ex. scale fins..etc..) One gift of the huntsman per 5 items. -Nicholas the traveler. Travels around in the game (not pre searing areas) and he moves and switches his item requirements once per week. His item requirements are usually a 2-5 (depending on rarity of item) of any monster drop (like a scale fin) for one Gift of the Traveler. -Zaishen Quests. Lots to explain here, but best for you to talk into the Great temple of balthazar and check out the flags, as well as the npc's next to the flags. Depending on how "man many" years you have last played... you probably might not even have Eye of the north (the expansion). Maybe even Nightfall. And look up some of the stuff here I mentioned on the official wiki for lots of good info. wiki.guildwars.com

Dec 09, 2009, 09:58 PM // 21:58	#7
bsoltan Site Contributor Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: UK Guild: [SoF]	My suggestion would be to start again with a new character (even if it is the same profession as your current level 20s). You can learn the basics again and you may pick it up quickly and breeze through the starting areas. Then you will have a good understanding of the game and will have also picked up some chat from other players while you're playing, you can look at joining a Guild to help you out and provide a stable group of people to play with. Good luck and have fun!

Dec 09, 2009, 10:05 PM // 22:05	#8
Paynen_Supherin Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Dec 2009 Profession: N/	Thanks everyone! I do have all packs including Nightfall. I just bought Eye of the North last night. I think I may just start a new toon in the Nightfall campaign. I'll be on Sui Sydal or Paynen Supherin so look me up! Thanks again!

Dec 10, 2009, 01:12 AM // 01:12	#11
Switchfoot55 Academy Page Join Date: May 2006 Guild: Jehova Jira the Conquerer Profession: Rt/Mo	Yeah, i'm curious about the update tomorrow too. What's that all about? Where can I get info? Obviously it'll be posted what the updates are after they happen. Is there a place you can look for new updates?

Dec 10, 2009, 12:17 PM // 12:17	#16
Arduin Grotto Attendant Join Date: May 2005 Location: The Netherlands Guild: Limburgse Jagers [LJ] Profession: R/	Ah, didn't think of the 20's being PvP characters, more like OP played two PvE's to level 20, then ditched the game. Either way, contacting support is probably the best way to go: http://www.guildwars.com/support/default.php